Lucy Ann Walbert's FindaGrave.com Record
Lucy is buried at St. Paul's UCC Church Cemetery, Trexlertown, Lehigh Co PA.
Her tombstone and that of her mother Lydia A. (nee Mohr) Bogert are located directly in front
of the pastor's parking space very near the right corner of the pictured church building shown above.
To see larger picture of her and her mother's gravestones - side by side: click here.
See data below. Other related names: Derr, Mohr, Boger,
and Kerchner
Anyone having genealogical information as to the given name
of the father of Lucy Ann Walbert please contact me.
See listing of known data about Lucy below.
Charles F. Kerchner, Jr.
3765 Chris Drive
Emmaus PA 18049-1544 USA
(a descendant)
Last Data Update: 28 Jul 2022
In 1996 I decided to investigate using DNA testing to help me but I learned
that the science has it's limits and the technology is not quite there yet,
at least for the complex type of genealogical problem I am faced with in
locating Lucy's father, at least not within the practical and economic
contraints imposed on amateur genealogists such as myself. After all we can't
just go out and dig up my great-grandmother, her mother, and six or so
prospective fathers and have genetic samples extracted and tested. This
privilege is reserved for the Pharaohs, Czars, and ancient Kings. Also, since
Lucy had no known full biological brother via Lucy's mother there is
no way to use Y-DNA testing of a possible male line descendant. Y-DNA testing
would be inconclusive anyway since to my knowledge all Walbert males in this
area are related and thus they would all have virtually identical Y chromosome
DYS marker results. So even if Lucy had a full biological brother a Y-DNA test
could not be used to determine which of the Walbert male cousins was her
father since they all would probably have matching Y-DNA test results.
The only DNA test which would be conclusive in proving who Lucy's father was
would be a typical DNA paternity test and as I said that would involve testing
Lucy's remains, her mother's, and the remains
of about six male potential candidate fathers. As I said, that type testing
is not practical to consider for a hobby genealogist. For more information on
using DNA testing to aide genealogical research, visit the below page link
for an overview and discussion about the abilities and present limits of the
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Some Data for Lucy Ann WALBERT Last Updated: 11 Aug 2017 !BIRTH: Born 1 Sep 1848, per her tomsbstone inscription. Tombstone Inscription; St. Pauls UCC Cemetery; Trexlertown PA; photo on file. Cemetery recs; Trexlertown Union Ch; Lehigh Co PA; Klosek; pub. 1988; p.20. FindaGrave.com record: http://www.findagrave.com/memorial/35903414 Born in Sep 1848 per 1900 census. D/o Lydia Bogert (sic) per 1900 census data. Lucy is found living in the household on Lydia Bogert in the 1900 census. D/o Lydia (nee Mohr) Bogert (sic) per her mother's obituary. Her mother Lydia married about 1856 to Solomon Boger (sic). She is buried next to her mother in St Paul UCC Church Cemetery in Trexlertown PA. Her father's name was Walbert but the given name of her father is unknown. Research note: As of Aug 2017 my best prospects for her Walbert father are: Nathan Walbert (1811-1894), born 2 Apr 1811, buried Lehigh Zion Luth Ch, of L Macungie Twsp, gentleman & school teacher, computer database PAF# 5919 William Walbert (1816-1896), born 24 Aug 1816, buried Lehigh Zion Luth Ch, farmer in L Macungie Twsp for many years, computer database PAF# 5853 Solomon Walbert (1815-1899), b. 3 Dec 1815, bur Solomon Ref Church, farmer & Twsp Supervisor for L Macungie Twsp many years, database PAF# 5859. Jacob Walbert Jr (1811-1862), born 13 Dec 1811, farmer in Weisenberg Twsp Lehigh Co PA, my computer database PAF# 5883. !CHRISTENING: The record of her baptism has not been found. She may have been baptized by the Rev. Jeremiah Schindel (1807-1870). Rev. Schindel served several congregations in this geographic area and his personal baptism records have not been found. !NAME: Name first obtained from family records. Named as Lucy A. (nee Walbert) wife of John Derr on tombstone inscription. Named as Lucy A. Walbert in death certificate of daughter, Emma M. (nee Derr) Kerchner. Named as Lucy Ann Walbert in 1850 census. Named as Lizzie A. Walbert in marriage record. Here name is listed in the Lehigh County PA death registry book as Lusianna (sic) Walbert. !CONFIRMATION: Confirmed on 15 Oct 1864 at Jerusalem Western Salisbury Church, Salisbury Twsp, Lehigh Co PA. History of Jerusalem Church, 200th Anniversay Edition, page 51. !MARRIAGE: Lucy Walbert married 17 Jun 1871 to John Derr. Her name was recorded as Lizzie A. Walbert at her wedding to John Derr. History of Jerusalem Church; pub. 1911; Lutheran recs; p.219; copy on file. Her obituary erroneously reported her as the wife of Jacob Derr, Haafsville, Pa. Her tombstone clearly states she was the wife of John Derr; copy on file. Cemetery recs; Trexlertown Union Ch; Lehigh Co PA; Klosek; pub. 1988; p.20. !WITNESS: 6 Jul 1879 served as baptismal sponsor for baptism of William John Derr. William John Derr, s/o Samuel Derr and wife Emaline, nee Flexer, baptized 6 July 1879. Sponsors: John Derr and wife Lucy, nee Walbert. Sponsor, John Derr, was the brother of the father. History of Jerusalem Church; pub. 1911; Reformed recs; p.87. 11 Apr 1880 served as baptismal sponsor for baptism of Alice Irene Kehm. History of Jerusalem Church; pub. 1911; Reformed recs; p.88. !CENSUS: Living with her grandfather and mother in the 1850 census. 1850; L Macungie Twsp; Lehigh Co Pa; p.111; Gottlieb Mohr; age 59; laborer; his wife Magaretha, 58; Lydia, 23; Mary, 21; Caroline, 15; and Lucy Ann Walbert, age 1. All born in PA. Living with her grandfather in the 1860 census. Her mother, who married about 1856 to Solomon Boger/Bogert, apparently left the grandparents raise Lucy. 1860; L Macungie Twsp; Lehigh Co PA; Godlieb Mohr; laborer; age 60; his wife Margaret Mohr, age 68; Mary, age 25; Caroline, age 20; and Lucy, age 11. All born in PA. Probable 1870 census record for her living with family of Morgan Mohr. 1870; L Macungie Twsp; Lehigh Co PA; p.339 l.2; dwelling 988; family 1138; Morgan Mohr, age 77; Mary A., 32; Lucy A. Walbert; 23; and Sarah Kuntz, 29?/39?. All born in PA. Married and living with spouse in the 1880 census. 1880; L Macungie Twsp; Lehigh Co PA; p.401 l.25; dwelling #152; family #172; John Derr, 30, married, mine laborer, born in PA; Lucy, 31, wife, keeping house; Ellen, 8, daughter; Emma, 2, daughter; and also Ellen Levan, 14, female, servant. Married but she was not living with her husband John Derr and children in 1900 census. 1900; Allentown; Lehigh Co PA; Liberty St; 8th Ward; house 1539; dwelling 29; family 32; roll 1429; Book 2; Page 274B; John Derr; head of household; white; male; born in October 1849; age 50; married; Ella M., daughter, white, female, born in May 1872, 28, single; Edward J., son, white, male, Feb 1883, 17, single; Annie M. Freis, grand-daughter, white, female, Mar 1900, age 2/12, single; and Annie Derr, mother, white, female, Mar 1823, 77, widowed. Lucy is found living with her mother, Lydia (Mohr) Bogert, in 1900 census. 1900; Lower Macungie Twsp; Lehigh Co PA; East Texas District; roll 1429; Book 1; Page 144A; dwelling 417; family 431; line 6; Lydia Bogert, head of household, white, female, born in Jan 1824 (sic), 76, widowed, 7 children, 6 living; Lucy A. Derr, daughter, white, female, Sep 1848, 51, married 1 (sic) years (must be an error), 4 children, 3 living; David F. Messner, son (it definitely says son and not son-in-law in the online 1900 census image), white, male, Apr 1854, 46, married 1 year; and Edwin O. Mohr, nephew, white, male, born in Feb 1870, 30, single. Research note: This David Messner is not some live-in arrangement, common-law husband of Lucy A. Derr, but instead is Lucy's 1/2 brother. See the 1860 census record for Lucy's mother Lydia Mohr which also lists a son David Messner, age 6, at that time. When Lucy died her obituary and her tombstone reports her as the wife of John Derr. But the married 1 year entry after both their names is very puzzling and confusing without cross checking earlier census records for Lydia Mohr. !GENETICS: mtDNA Haplogroup = H6a. She is deduced to be maternal line mtDNA haplogroup H6a since her direct maternal line great-granddaughter Dorothy Mae (nee Heil) Rohrbach was mtDNA tested and found to be mtDNA haplogroup H6a. !DEATH: Died 18 Oct 1903, age 55y 1m 17d. Tombstone Inscription; St. Pauls UCC Cemetery; Trexlertown PA; photo on file. FindaGrave.com record: http://www.findagrave.com/memorial/35903414 Died while visiting the family of Jacob Miller in West Catasauqua, PA, per her obit. Her obituary; Wednesday 21 Oct 1903 Issue; Morning Call; Allentown PA. Tombstone Inscriptions; St Paul's Union Church Cemetery; Trexlertown Pa; Seng; pub. 1969; p.21; 16th row; copy on file. No death certificate has been found for her in the county courthouse records. I have tried to no avail to find the old funeral home records of undertaker Elmer E. Erdman, of Catasauqua PA, who buried her. Death certificates were not maintained at the state level until 1906. Research note: In the 1900 census there was a Jacob and Elizabeth Miller, and daughter Carrie Miller, single, living on Front Street in the census of Catasauqua PA. In the 1910 census there was a widow Elizabeth Miller living at number 40 Front Street, Catasauqua PA, with her daughter Carrie Miller, single, now listed as the head of the household. According to the 1900 census this Jacob Miller was a Physician, i.e., a Doctor. !OBITUARY: Her obituary was published in the Morning Call, Allentown PA: DERR, Lucy, 1903 10-Oct-21, page 4 Burial arrangements handled by Undertaker Erdman of Catasauqua, Pa. Services were held in the home of her daughter, Mrs. Jacob B. Kerschner (sic-error, actually Kerchner). Mrs. Jacob Kerchner was Emma (nee Derr) Kerchner, my grandmother. Obituary; Wednesday 21 Oct 1903 Issue; Morning Call; Allentown PA. !BURIAL: Buried 22 Oct 1903 in St Paul Church Cemetery, Trexlertown PA. Tombstone marked as "mother". Buried next to her mother, Lidy (sic), wife of Solomon Bogert (sic). Tombstone; 16th Row; St. Pauls UCC Cemetery; Trexlertown PA. Tombstone recs; St Pauls Union Ch Cem; Trexlertown PA; Seng; 16th row; p.21. FindaGrave.com record: http://www.findagrave.com/memorial/35903414 Burial arrangements handled by Undertaker Erdman of Catasauqua, Pa. Services were held in the home of her daughter, Mrs. Jacob B. Kerschner (sic). Mrs. Jacob Kerchner was Emma (nee Derr) Kerchner, my grandmother. Obituary; Wednesday 21 Oct 1903 Issue; Morning Call; Allentown PA. She is buried next to her mother Lydia (nee Mohr) Bogert and also is near her uncle Daniel Mohr. Tombstone recs; St Pauls Union Ch Cem; Trexlertown PA; Seng; 16th row; p.21. Cemetery recs; Trexlertown Union Ch; Lehigh Co PA; Klosek; pub. 1988; p.20. Research notes: 1910, 1920, and 1930 censuses lists an Elmer E. Erdman, undertaker, 143 Front Street, Catasauqua, Lehigh Co PA. !PHOTO: Photo of her tombstone on file. Picture also online as of 2009 at Findagrave.com. FindaGrave.com record: http://www.findagrave.com/memorial/35903414 !RELATIONSHIP: Her obituary; Wednesday 21 Oct 1903 Issue; Morning Call; Allentown PA. Tombstone Inscription; St. Pauls UCC Cemetery; Trexlertown PA. John Derr and Lucy (Walbert) Derr were witnesses to baptism of William John Derr, son of Samuel & Emaline (Flexer) Derr, 6 Jul 1897. History of Jerusalem Ch; pub. 1911; Reformed recs; p.87. Her mother's obituary; 20 Nov 1900 issue; Frieden Bote; Allentown PA. She is the d/o Lydia Mohr per obituary of Lydia (nee Mohr) Bogert, her mother. Obituary for Lydia (nee Mohr) Bogert; 20 Nov 1900 issue; Frieden Bote german language newspaper; reports Lydia Bogert is the mother of Lucy Derr. !COMMENTS: Several possibilities have been surmised to have occured. 1. Lydia Mohr conceived Lucy out of wedlock and Lucy was raised by grandparents. 2. Lydia was married but Lucy's father died soon after Lucy's conception and Lucy was subsequently raised by her grandparents. 3. Lydia may have divorced her husband immediately after Lucy was conceived and Lucy was subsequently raised by her grandparents. At this time I believe surmise number 1 to be the most probable. ============================================================================= Surmised Ahnentafel Chart for Lucy Ann WALBERT First Generation 1. Lucy Ann WALBERT- was born 1 Sep 1848 in probably, Lehigh County, PA. She died 18 Oct 1903 in W Catasauqua, Lehigh County, PA and was buried 22 Oct 1903 in St Paul UCC Cem, Trexlertown, Lehigh County, PA. Lucy married John DERR-, son of Samuel H. DERR Sr. and Anna ROTH, on 17 Jun 1871 at Jerusalem Western Salisbury Church, Lehigh County, PA. John was born 4 Oct 1849 in Salisbury Twsp, Lehigh County, PA and was christened 4 Nov 1849 in Jer W Salisbury, Lehigh County, PA. He died 16 Jan 1934 in Breinigsville, Lehigh County, PA and was buried 20 Jan 1934 in Jer W Salisbury, Lehigh County, PA. Second Generation 2. WALBERT- was born circa 1800-1820 in Lehigh County, PA. He and Lydia A. MOHR were probably not married. 3. Lydia A. MOHR- was born 2 Jan 1825 in L Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA. She died 15 Nov 1900 in Minesite, Lehigh County, PA and was buried about 18 Nov 1900 in St Paul UCC Cem, Trexlertown, Lehigh County, PA. Third Generation 4. WALBERT - born circa 1770-1780 in Lehigh Co PA. The exact Walbert male line back to George Walbert Sr. and Maria Rosina Kuhn is uncertain. It will depend on who the 2nd generation Walbert is. 5. Spouse - born circa 1770/180 in Lehigh Co PA. 6. Gottlieb MOHR- was born 12 Sep 1790 in Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA. He died 7 Dec 1864 in L Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA and was buried about 10 Dec 1864 in St Paul UCC Cem, Trexlertown, Lehigh County, PA. Gottlieb married Maria Margaretha SCHMOYER about 1815 in , Lehigh County, PA. 7. Maria Margaretha SCHMOYER- was born 8 Apr 1792 in Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA and was christened 20 May 1792 in Trexlertown U Ch, Lehigh County, PA. She died 25 Jun 1873 in , Lehigh County, PA and was buried about 28 Jun 1873 in St Paul UCC Cem, Trexlertown, Lehigh County, PA. Fourth Generation 8. George WALBERT Sr.- was born about 1745 in probably, , PA. He died about Dec 1799 in Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA. George married Maria Rosina KUHN about 1765 in probably, Lehigh County, PA. 9. Maria Rosina KUHN- was born 7 Feb 1748 in probably, near, Lehigh County, PA. She died 18 Feb 1823 in near, L Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA and was buried about 21 Feb 1823 in Lehigh Zion Luth, L Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA. 12. Peter MOHR- was born 2 Jul 1758 in probably, Lehigh County, PA. He died 9 Mar 1794 in Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA and was buried about 12 Mar 1794 in Ziegel Union Ch, Lehigh County, PA. Peter married Christine- about 1785 in PA. 13. Christine- was born about 1760 in probably, , PA. She was buried in Ziegel Union Ch, Lehigh Co, PA. 14. Johan Philip SCHMEYER- was born about 1767 in probably, Lehigh County, PA. He died about Apr 1816 in probably, Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA and was buried about Apr 1816 in probably, Lehigh County, PA. Johan Philip married Catherine MILLER on 22 Dec 1789 in Goshenhoppen Ch, U Hanover Twsp, Montgomery Co, PA. 15. Catherine MILLER- was born 17 Jul 1771 in probably, Lehigh County, PA and was christened 25 Aug 1771 in Jer W Salisbury, Salisbury Twsp, Lehigh County, PA. She died 29 Oct 1861 in probably, Lehigh County, PA and was buried about 2 Nov 1861 in St Paul Union Ch, Trexlertown, Lehigh County, PA. Fifth Generation 16. Johan Peter WALBERT Jr.- was born about 1719 in probably, , , Germany. He died about Nov 1758 in Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA. Johan Peter married Anna Elisabeth SASSMANNSHAUSEN about 1743 probably in PA. 17. Anna Elisabeth SASSMANNSHAUSEN was born 20 Dec 1719 in Berghausen, Wittgenstein, Westphalia, Germany. She died 21 Feb 1804 in Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA and was buried about 24 Feb 1804 in Lehigh Zion Luth, L Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA. 24. Johan Herman MOHR- was born 17 Nov 1720 in near, Mauchenheim, Pfalz, Germany. He died about Mar 1777 in Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA and was buried about Mar 1777 in St John Ch Cem, Fogelsville, Lehigh County, PA. Johan Herman married Susanna about 1743 in , , , Germany. 25. Susanna- was born about 1720 in , , Wurttemberg, Germany. She died in , Lehigh County, PA and was buried in St John Ch Cem, Fogelsville, Lehigh County, PA. 28. Johann Jacob SCHMEYER- was born 21 Mar 1728 in Nohfelden, , , Germany. He died 6 Apr 1791 in probably, Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA. Johann Jacob married Waltborga FEGELY about 1755 probably in Lehigh Co PA. 29. Waltborga FEGELY- was born 28 Mar 1730 in maybe, , , Germany. She died 12 Aug 1794 in probably, Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA and was buried about 15 Aug 1794 in St Paul Ch Cem, Trexlertown, Lehigh County, PA. 30. Peter MILLER- was born about 1744 in maybe, , PA. He married Christina about 1768 probably in PA. 31. Christina- was born about 1747 in maybe, , PA. Sixth Generation 32. Johan Peter WALBERT Sr.- was born about 1690 in probably Germany. He died in probably in PA. Johan Peter Walbert married Sybilla- in 1714 in Rheinland, Germany. 33. Anna Sybilla BAST -6157 was born in 1694 in Rheinland, Germany. She died in probably, PA. 34. Jost Heinrich SASSMANNSHAUSEN- was born Apr 1696 in Ruppershausen, , , Germany and was christened 1696 in Evang Ref Ch, Feudingen, , Germany. He died about 4 Nov 1767 in Maxatawny Twsp, Berks County, PA and was buried about Nov 1767 in probably, Maxatawny Twsp, Berks County, PA. Jost Heinrich married Anna Catherina STRACK on 17 Sep 1717 in Evang Ref Ch, Feudingen, Wittgenstein, Germany. 35. Anna Catherina STRACK- was born about 1700 in near, Amtshausen, Ruppershausen, Germany. She died about 1751 in probably, Maxatawny Twsp, Berks County, PA. 48. Adolph MOHR-8862 was born about 1690 in Mauchenheim, , Pfalz, Germany. He married Anna Barbara FUTTING about 1716 in near, Mauchenheim, Pfalz, Germany. 49. Anna Barbara FUTTING- was born about 1690 in near, Mauchenheim, Pfalz, Germany. 56. Johan Philip SCHMEYER Sr.- was born 26 Jun 1698 in Nohfelden, , Saarland, Germany. He died 1750 in Spring Creek, L Macungie Twsp, Lehigh County, PA and was buried 1750 in probably, Lehigh County, PA. Johan Philip married Maria Salome STEPHAN on 20 Nov 1727 in Wolfersweiler, , Saarland, Germany. 57. Maria Salome STEPHAN-3354 was born 2 Aug 1699 in Wolfersweiler, , Saarland, Germany. She probably died in PA.
Links to other surnames and web sites of prime genealogical interest to me:
Kerchner Genealogy Home Page.
Laudenslager Genealogy Home Page.
Walbert Genealogy Home Page.
1812 Project Home Page.
18th Century PA German Naming Customs.
PA Dutch Are Of German Heritage, Not Dutch.
Rootsweb surname search engine.
Palatines to America organization home page.
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