Guest: Sonia
Guest's Website: http://members.aol.com/scabbegen/family/index.html
Date-Time: Friday, December 24, 2004 at 07:52:49 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 60, 0, 3, 37
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 87, 0, 0, 13
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: Oct 2004
Comments: Socio-culturally our family is African American and I research family history, not genealogy as I follow the African American "pater" grandfather lines, not the European American "genitor" lines. I was surprised by the high IE compared to the SSAF. I will ask my sister to post on her results. My mom & maternal grandmother (age 100 next month!) were tested in Nov. 2004 with 2.5 also. Mom Expected: 50, 0, 6, 44. Mom Actual: 66, 0, 0, 34. Gram Expected: 0, 0, 12, 88. Gram Actual: 18, 0, 0, 82. Gram's lack of NA is surprising as it doesn't fit with the oral traditions of her maternal line.
Email address (To use delete '-Friday-' and add @ sign in that position): scabbegen-Friday-aol.com

Guest: Tom McMahon
Date-Time: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 at 14:12:56 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 98, 0, 2, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 93, 0, 7, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 20 October 2004
Comments: At least 2% Native American was predicted based on genealogical research. My maternal side of the family is French-Acadian background, from the Quebec area. There has been rumors that my great great grandmother was Native on my mother's side. I have not pursued the research, but will now.
Email address (To use delete '-Wednesday-' and add @ sign in that position): tomm-Wednesday-egcrc.net

Guest: Steven Williamson
Guest's Website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=gen_author
Date-Time: Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 16:32:59 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 98,0,0,2
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 86,0,8,6
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 30 September 2004
Comments: Follow-up to previous post of November 24, 2004: After reading through everything I could find relating to the presence of Middle Eastern genes in Northern Europe, such as Semino et al (2000), Rosenberg et al (2002), Richards et al (2000), as well as the data presented on Ancestry by DNA's web site and Cavalli-Sforza's "History & Geography of Human Genes," I think my Euro-DNA 1.0 results are perfectly compatible with a Northwestern European background. There is nothing in my genealogical research that leads me to hypothesize any recent Middle Eastern ancestry. The most likely explanation in my case would be that my Middle Eastern ancestry is from the migration into Europe of farmers from the Middle East during the Neolithic. If my interpretation is correct, then the test simply confirmed what I already knew from paper genealogy and from looking in the mirror (!). As far as my 2.5 results, I think my African results are valid. But my NA results still cause me some confusion. I believe the test is probably picking up something in my DNA that is also found among modern Native Americans. What I still feel I don't know for sure is whether this is from post-Columbian admixture of Europeans and Native Americans, or from some ancient Eurasian source. I think a case could be made for either scenario. Perhaps later versions of the DNA Print test will be able to sort this out?
Email address (To use delete '-Thursday-' and add @ sign in that position): w_s_arthur-Thursday-yahoo.com

Guest: Steven Williamson
Date-Time: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 at 19:31:48 (CST)
My Expected Results for Northern-Europe(NOR), S-E Europe(MED), Mid-Eastern(MIDEAS),South-Asian(SA) Population Groups: 98,0,2,0
My Actual Results for Northern-Europe(NOR), S-E Europe(MED), Mid-Eastern(MIDEAS),South-Asian(SA) Population Groups: 61,13,26,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: EuroDNA 1.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 30 September 2004
Comments: Y haplogroup is J2; mtDNA haplogroup is T. Euro-DNA 1.0 results: 61% Irish-Northern European, 13% Greek-Turkish(MED), 26% Middle Eastern. The Native American, African, Middle Eastern and Greek-Turkish percentages were all higher than I expected. Paper genealogy, with records back to the mid 1700s in all lines, indicates 98% Northwest European (almost wholly British & Irish, with tiny amounts of French & German) and 1-2% African (probably West African). My ancestors have been in eastern Kentucky since the early 1800s, and before that were mainly in southwestern Virginia. I do not descend directly from any of the so-called "core Melungeon" families of that region, but my ancestors followed the same migration paths into Appalachia, and often lived near those families. There are a couple of lines with the usual "Cherokee Princess" legends, but none of these stories have held up to scrutiny - they are all listed as "white" in records, but share some surname similarities with "free negro" families of the type documented by Paul Heinegg, author of "Free African Americans" (www.freeafricanamericans.com). Given that many Middle Eastern & Mediterranean people show small but significant amounts of NA & SSAF ancestry, it seems to me that my percentages in those categories could have come from my Middle Eastern ancestry. As to why a "hillbilly" like myself shows such an unexpectedly high amount of Middle Eastern ancestry, I cannot at this time say. In Melungeon research, there has been a lot of speculation that there was a large Turkish or other such component in the ancestry of Appalachian people, but this is far from accepted by all researchers. Also, a Melungeon DNA study (unpublished) carried out a few years ago found a few lines that suggested Turkish, Syrian and South Asian ancestry. At this point, I don't want to speculate as to where exactly my apparently Middle Eastern ancestry came from. As Ancestry by DNA's web site repeatedly warns, the source of the ancestry could be very, very ancient. [See prior posts of 6 May 2004 and 2 Feb 2004.]
Email address (To use delete '-Wednesday-' and add @ sign in that position): w_s_arthur-Wednesday-yahoo.com

Guest: Doug Powers
Date-Time: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 at 13:16:10 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 87, 0,13,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 90, 0, 10, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: Sept 2004
Comments: Y-DNA R1b. MtDNA HV. Genealogy suggests 1/8 Native American ancestry
Email address (To use delete '-Tuesday-' and add @ sign in that position): powers-Tuesday-susqu.edu

Guest: SL
Date-Time: Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 17:56:41 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 38, 50, 12, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 34, 48, 16, 2
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: August 2004
Comments: The results of the 2.5 test were very close to my expected results. I have read that people with NA or Mediterranean IE test for small amounts of SSAF, so the SSAF showing up is not that much of a surprise. I had taken the 2.0 test a few months earlier and received very different results. The 2.5 test seemed to be more accurate, as it more represented my ethnic background. In reality, I am 50% Southeast Asian, 25% Central European, 12.5% Southwestern European, 12.5% Southwestern US Native American. Both my maternal and paternal grandfathers are of Southeast Asian descent, I have a maternal grandmother who is of Central European descent and a paternal grandmother who is of half Southwestern European and half Southwestern US Native American descent (both my parents also have 'mixed' ancestry). When you add it all up (50% EA, 37.5% IE, 12.5% NA), it is very close to the results of the 2.5 test (48% EA, 34% IE, 16% NA, 2% SSAF). Based on the results of both the 2.0 and 2.5 tests, I believe that the 2.5 is more accurate than the 2.0.
Email address (To use delete '-Saturday-' and add @ sign in that position): dfc1-Saturday-earthlink.net

Guest: Ronald Alexander Pavellas
Guest's Website: http://www.management-mentor.net
Date-Time: Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 13:15:03 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100, 0, 0, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100, 0, 0, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 24 November 2003
Comments: mtDNA results HVR1 Haplogroup K. HVR1 Mutations: 16168T, 16224C, 16311C, 16519C. HVR2 Mutations: 73G, 195C, 263G, 315.1C, 497T. Y-DNA results Locus DYS# Alleles 1 393 12 2 390 25 3 19* 15 4 391 10 5 385a 14 6 385b 18 7 426 11 8 388 15 9 439 11 10 389-1 12 11 392 11 12 389-2 28 13 458 16 14 459a 8 15 459b 9 16 455 11 17 454 11 18 447 28 19 437 16 20 448 19 21 449 29 22 464a 14 23 464b 15 24 464c 16 25 464d 19 26 460 11 27 GATA H4 10 28 YCA II a 19 29 YCA II b 20 30 456 13 31 607 13 32 576 18 33 570 16 34 CDY a 35 35 CDY b 39 36 442 11 37 438 9
Email address (To use delete '-Thursday-' and add @ sign in that position): rpavellas-Thursday-management-mentor.net

Guest: Maria Theresa Shook Walters
Date-Time: Saturday, August 28, 2004 at 22:45:28 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 99, 0, 1, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 90, 0, 10, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 21 July 2004
Comments: I was convinced that my test would yield 100 percent Indo European because of my physical characteristics but hoped for at least 1 percent American Indian based on my oral family history and paper trail that goes back to the 1600's, confirming my ancestry to the Potowomecke of Virginia. I was totally stunned to see the high percentage of American Indian DNA,
Email address (To use delete '-Saturday-' and add @ sign in that position): Maria_W-Saturday-Operamail.com

Guest: Full Brothers DNAPrint Version 2.0 and 2.5 Test Results
Guest's Website: http://www.kerchner.com/dnaprinteavsna.htm
Date-Time: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 at 22:00:32 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: Brother 1: 79,21,0,0 - Brother 2: 77,0,23,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: Brother 1: Mar/Apr 2003 - Brother 2: Jun 2004
Comments: Two full brothers were tested using the DNAPrint Version 2.0 test as part of my PA Deutsch Ethnic Group DNA Project. Full siblingship, while not in doubt to the family, for scientific reasons was positively verified using a siblingship DNA test and by other DNA tests. Brother one tested in Mar and Apr 2003 was scored by the DNAPrint Version 2.0 test with a MLE of 79% European and 21% Asian. Brother two tested in Jun 2004 was scored by the DNAPrint Version 2.0 test with a MLE 77% European and 23% Native American. These diametrically opposite MLE scorings for the non-European, non-African minority admixture in the two full brothers tested is confusing to say the least. Update as of Sep 2004. Results for testing of both brothers with the version 2.5 test yielded the following results. Brother one: 93% European 7% Asian. Brother two: 86% European 14% Native American. Still diamettrically opposite results for the minority content. See this webpage for more details and comments: http://www.kerchner.com/dnaprinteavsna.htm For more on the PA Deutsch Ethnic Group DNA Project see: http://www.kerchner.com/pa-gerdna.htm
Email address (To use delete '-Tuesday-' and add @ sign in that position): Contact

Guest: Tom Clancy
Guest's Website: http://home.earthlink.net/DNAPrint/
Date-Time: Monday, July 26, 2004 at 21:07:05 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 88, 0, 6, 6
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 87, 0, 7, 6
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: approx March 2004
Comments: Tom is the brother of Cecelia Clancy. Cecelia's results have varied, but the latest is 90, 5, 0, 5. Tom and Cecelia are full sibs, so DNAPrint is artifically zeroing out one of the values. For Cecelia, they zeroed out NA, for Tom, they zeroed out EA. But for both of us, the confidence intervals include possiblity of NA for Cecelia and EA for Tom. For both, we presume that EA really means NA, for we have no recent ancestors from the real East Asia or Polynesia. But we do have some Virignia ancestors that could have brought us both NA and SSAF. Our mtDNA haplogroup is J. Y-haplogroup unknown, but father came straight from western Ireland.
Email address (To use delete '-Monday-' and add @ sign in that position): cacst9-Monday-earthlink.net

Guest: MAN
Date-Time: Friday, July 09, 2004 at 17:58:06 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 12,0,3,85
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 26,0,4,70
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 21 May 2004
Comments: No shockers here!! However, I was a bit taken aback by the higher percentage of IE in my genome. I had always known that my paternal grandmother was half white (which I presume would have made me 12.5% IE). The DNAPrint test results of IE being 26% suggests more mixing than I had expected or ever heard about. The NA result is right in sync with oral tradition on my mother's side. As for my mitochondria DNA, one lab has determined that it is Haplotype L3 (more specifically L3e1)which is most prevalent in East Africa and the Middle East but also found among the Ewondo tribe of Camaroon in West Africa. In fact, supposedly all non-African haplotypes are descendent from L3. Another lab has tested my y-chromosome and says it is found to be prevalent among the Taureg people (a nomadic berber tribe on the southern fringes of the Sahara Desert). However, since the lab which tested my y-chromosome only looked at 8 markers I'm getting a second opinion from another lab which will test 25 markers. As an American of primarily African ancestry, the ancestral paper trail for me usually ends at the 1870 census (the first to enumerate African-Anericans individually). Any information before that is lost in non-specific slave and shipping records. This is all very exciting. Thanks to DNA testing, I can now extend my range of research and pinpoint with more accuracy precisely where I come from.
Email address (To use delete '-Friday-' and add @ sign in that position): man65-Friday-aol.com

Guest: TJG
Date-Time: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 at 23:28:49 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 51, 0, 6, 43
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 52, 13, 0, 35
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 6 July, 2004
Comments: These results are soooo un-surprising. As a child I'd always thought of myself as 'half black' and 'half white' with a Blackfoot Indian GGGG Grandparent on both my mother's and father's side, (The maternal Blackfoot Indian from the northern plains, and the paternal Blackfoot Indian from a small community removed by force to Alabama). (Maternally) Im 25% Irish, 12.5% Italian, 6% German-French. The German-French incluses Alsatian, Swabian, and Corsican/Tuscan. The Italian DNA is from an obscure cultural group known as the Cechi living in the Alps. They decend from Frankish invaders who crossed the Spluga Pass centuries ago - more particularly from an Alpine village where stories of a hunnish invasion even further back are told. I was watching a documentary one night about Huns who retreated into the Alps after being defeated in Gaul, and how modern DNA tests suggests Asian DNA in some Alpine communities with some children born with a more typically Mongolian blue circle at the base of their spine, like I was. Any way, there are men named Attilio in that part of my family in honor of Attilla the Hun. My irish ancestors were from the darker, Gaelic speaking western shore of the island. My father (who is black)'s grandmother told stories of her grandfather the Blackfoot coming to see her dressed in full tribal regalia. The DNA results were very close to what i expected given that my early guestimate allowed for African-Americans having high counts of Non-African DNA after 400 years in america and Caucaian Americans having similarly taklen on other DNA. It would be better if the test could more easily distinguish between Native American and East Asian.
Email address (To use delete '-Wednesday-' and add @ sign in that position): hesjustgreat-Wednesday-aol.com

Guest: David R. Miller
Date-Time: Sunday, June 27, 2004 at 13:08:23 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100, 0, 0, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 90, 0, 10, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: Feb. 2004
Comments: My paternal line immigrated from Germany to pennsylvania in about 1715 and is R1b. My mother's parents were born and raised in Sweden before immigrating to Oregon, and my maternal line is H .
Email address (To use delete '-Sunday-' and add @ sign in that position): dvmiller-Sunday-pris.bc.ca

Guest: J Pittman
Date-Time: Sunday, June 27, 2004 at 09:28:38 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 85,5,10,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 91,0,9,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: June 2003
Comments: Maternal side is Indo European and the Paternal side is a mix of IE and Cherokee Native American.
Email address (To use delete '-Sunday-' and add @ sign in that position): team_member-Sunday-juno.com

Guest: Celia Millington-Wyckoff
Date-Time: Friday, June 04, 2004 at 08:55:02 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 87, 0, 11, 2
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 96, 4, 0, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 4 February 2004
Comments: I was very surprised at my 2.5 results. My October 2003 version 2.0 test results were 87, 13, 0, 0, and I had read in DNA discussion lists (which included comments by geneticists) in the interim between my 2.0 test and signing up for the 2.5 that the "East Asian" component was likely non-specified Native American that might be "hiding" some Sub-Saharan African as well. In other words, the 2.0 test was seen as not refined enough to pick up on those components. Some folks in the discussions were warning that 2.5 might not be, either, and were recommending that people wait for 3.0 (which I didn't have the patience to do ;-). My ancestors on my mother's side all settled western North Carolina andeast Tennessee in the early 1700s, which genealogically and historically suggests intermarriage with Native Americans (who may have themselves intermarried earlier with free Blacks), but I put more stock in anthropologically proven ethnic/racial traits than I do in a paper trail. I have "textbook example quality" shovel-shaped incisors, tori below my bottom gums (these most often indicate SSAF ancestry; may also indicate EA and NA ancestry when found above the upper gums), and Asian eyefolds. I also have a myriad of other traits *suggestive* of NA ancestry, such as olive skin, crooked pinky fingers, and extra bones in the feet and jaw (but no anthropologist would say these *suggestive* traits prove NA ancestry, since they could show up in other groups. But the dental traits have been proven by anthropologists to show NA/and or SSAF ancestry). In sum, I'm puzzled as to why the 2.5 test doesn't reflect the presence of these traits--perhaps it's possible to inherit the ethnic traits and not the DNA that would show NA and SSAF ancestry, which I'm certain I have. Ah, well, bring on the 3.0! (And a final note: I have no Pennsylvania German (Deutsch) ancestry......
Email address (To use delete '-Friday-' and add @ sign in that position): caw6-Friday-outreach.psu.edu

Guest: John Charles Brooks
Guest's Website: http://www.ftdna.com/public/BrooksSurnameDNAProject
Date-Time: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 at 17:19:36 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: IE 100, 0, 0, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: IE 100, 0, 0, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: August 2003
Comments: Haplo: I Markers: DYS# 393: 13 458 16 460 11 390: 22 459a 8 GATA H4 10 19/394: 14 459b 9 YCA II a 19 391: 11 455 8 YCA II b 21 385a: 13 454 11 456 14 385b: 14 447 23 607 13 426: 11 437 16 576 17 388: 14 448 20 570 19 439: 11 449 28 CDY a 34 389-1: 12 464a 12 CDY b 38 392: 11 464b 12 442 12 389-2: 29 464c 13 438 10 464d 16
Email address (To use delete '-Tuesday-' and add @ sign in that position): brooksj-Tuesday-alumni.unc.edu

Guest: A.W.M
Date-Time: Saturday, May 29, 2004 at 23:51:14 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 6, 0, 3, 91
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 0, 2, 0, 98
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 20 Dec 2003
Comments: re-ordered DNAPrint 2.5 April 8, results came back 0,0,3,97. Was surprise to see the EA and not the IE because the oral tradition supports the IE on maternal side and on paternal side NA but no mention of EA. I will be doing my siblings because our features very strongly supports IE but this also may be coming from the NA. Also my children have very strong IE features and complextion as do many of my siblings this result is very surprising. please keep my e-mail address private and for your use only. do not display it. thanks.
Email address (To use delete '-Saturday-' and add @ sign in that position): wwaine-ann000-Saturday-sympatico.ca

Guest: Alex S
Date-Time: Sunday, May 16, 2004 at 01:01:26 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100, 0, 0, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 92, 8, 0, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number:
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: April 2004
Comments: Results were as expected. I'm of Eastern European origin, Ukraine to be exact.
Email address (To use delete '-Sunday-' and add @ sign in that position): madlad-Sunday-optonline.net

Guest: Steven Williamson
Guest's Website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=genauthor
Date-Time: Thursday, May 06, 2004 at 15:04:28 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 98,0,0,2
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 86,0,8,6
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 14 April 2004
Comments: I did the DNA Print 2.0 test twice, because I was stunned by the high percentage of NA ancestry. My first set of results were 80, 4, 16, 0, the 2nd was 84, 1, 15, 0, each time with failures, though in different locations. Ancestry by DNA combined the two genotype files (via e-mail) into 81, 0, 19, 0. My 2.5 results are shown above: note the appearance of the 6% African, while my 2.0 results showed 0% African. I believe this shows how the test has improved in accuracy. My 8% NA on the 2.5 test is <10%, and the 6% SSAF is >3.5%, needed for 95% certainty (see Table SIMSUM 175 on the Ancestry by DNA website). Based on paper genealogy, I only have one "non-white" ancestor, a mulatto female 7 generations back, but there are a number of lines with "Cherokee Princess" legends which show circumstantial evidence of having free african-american heritage. My ancestry is posted at Rootsweb's World Connect - many of my lines have affinities with several of the free african-american families in Paul Heinegg's book (http://www.freeafricanamericans.com/). I'm looking forward to the 3.0 test.
Email address (To use delete '-Thursday-' and add @ sign in that position): w_s_arthur-Thursday-yahoo.com

Guest: John David Cofield
Date-Time: Sunday, April 25, 2004 at 16:32:49 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 95, 0, 5, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 89, 7, 0, 4
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: January 2004
Comments: I was not surprised to see a high amount of IE, but the amounts for EA and SSAF were surprising. My genealogy is well documented back 5-6 generations on all lines, and much further back on most lines. I am aware of a small amount of NA from the 1700s or 1600s according to the paper trail, but that did not show up, unless it can be explained with the EA. Being a descendant of 10-15 generations of people who lived in the Southern sections of the US, I was aware that there is a possibility of SSAF intermixture, though there is no documentation of such. On this page from AncestryDNA http://www.ancestrybydna.com/simulation.asp there is a table which seems to indicate that both my EA and SSAF results could be the result of statistical noise, not actual mixture. My Y line haplotype has not been determined but is probably R1b according to Family Tree DNA. My MtDNA is T2.
Email address (To use delete '-Sunday-' and add @ sign in that position): jdcofield-Sunday-att.net

Guest: James B. Bullock
Guest's Website: http://wc.rootsweb.com/~jbbullock
Date-Time: Friday, April 23, 2004 at 01:44:31 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: Jan 2003
Comments: Y-DNA haplogroup is R1b. No haplogroup assigned to mtDNA. DNAPrint results were expected. No surprises.
Email address (To use delete '-Friday-' and add @ sign in that position): j.b.bullock-Friday-comcast.net

Guest: rick lassiter
Date-Time: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 22:14:16 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: my IE, EA, NA, SSAF expectations were: 95, 0, 5, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: my IE, EA, NA, SSAF results were: 57, 0, 43, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 1/04
Comments: Very surprised by the 43% Native American! My GG Grandmother was supposedly Cherokee but that alone wouldn't add up to 43%. My brother and I are doing extensive genealogy research now to confirm.
Email address (To use delete '-Tuesday-' and add @ sign in that position): lrlas-Tuesday-aol.com

Guest: Catherine Klimenkov
Date-Time: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 at 15:34:53 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 95, 0, 5, 0,
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 90, 0, 4, 6
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 1 March 2004
Comments: I was expecting a little Native American as both my mom and dad have some (4% and 5% respectively), but the Sub-Saharan African was a complete surprise. My dad's 2.0 test does not show any, and neither does my mom's 2.0 or 2.5. There is no evidence of such in any family histories and my phenotype does not fit SSAF at all.
Email address (To use delete '-Tuesday-' and add @ sign in that position): ratkatcher-Tuesday-earthlink.net

Guest: FirstDNAtest
Date-Time: Saturday, April 03, 2004 at 19:37:08 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 99, 0, 1, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 82, 3, 15, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number:
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: Jan 9 2004
Comments: I was really surprised by the 15% NA. I knew there might be a chance I had a very small amount of NA in my family history, but was shocked by the 15%-which is only the test's estimate to my understanding-could be higher/lower. Also the 3% EA-I don't know where that could have come from. I'm guessing it is also included in the NA since perhaps it is from a newer migration to north american.
Email address (To use delete '-Saturday-' and add @ sign in that position): tokidoki1-Saturday-aol.com

Guest: Tracey Johnson
Date-Time: Monday, March 22, 2004 at 23:28:57 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 77,0,23,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: April 2003
Comments: I was very surprised to find that I had such a high percentage of Native American at 23% with Indo-European at 77%. I had this test conducted because I was abandoned by my birth mother at fifteen months old and have always wanted to know what I am mixed with being that my father is African American, or so I believed his roots to be, until he was tested by Family Tree DNA and has been assigned to Haplogroup G, Syrian/Arab. This has been fun thus far. I am awaiting results on my recent mtDNA results which are expected due by April 18, 2004. I will be back with the results. I have come to the conclusion that sometimes what you see "ain't what you get"! My father for example, appears to be of African descent, but he is not. Thank You, Tracey Johnson, Pasadena CA, USA
Email address (To use delete '-Monday-' and add @ sign in that position): traceys_home-Monday-hotmail.com

Guest: Ruth Clancy, nee King, Cecelia Clancy's Mom
Guest's Website: http://home.earthlink.net/~cacst9/DNAPrint/
Date-Time: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 at 00:54:56 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 76, 0, 12, 12
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100, 0, 0, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: July 2003
Comments: This is a surprising result, and contradicts mine. It is unlikely that I could have gotten non-European signals from my father. My father came straight from Ireland and looked all European - baby fine hair, cold blue eyes, etc. He is said to be all Irish and has no known Mediterranian or Mideastern or Eastern European ancestry. A Viking skeleton was found on his island after a storm, proving that Vikings had at least visited his island - Inishturbot (Turbot Island, Inis Turbot), a small island near the mouth of Clifden Bay in western County Galway, Ireland. But his ancestors had been on the island for only six or seven generations - Vikings could have brought some Saami DNA - but the Viking whose remains were found a few years ago had been there much sooner that six or seven generations ago. I am waiting to see if I will be getting in the mail a new analysis of Mom's data from DNAPrint - based on their corrected algorithm. Mom also has some living sibs - asking them to get tested much shed some light.
Email address (To use delete '-Wednesday-' and add @ sign in that position): cacst9-Wednesday-earthlink.net

Guest: Cecelia Clancy
Guest's Website: http://home.earthlink.net/~cacst9/DNAPrint/
Date-Time: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 at 00:42:39 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 88, 0, 6, 6
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 90, 5, 0, 5
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: February 2004
Comments: I did not order this new report. DNAPrint sent it to me on their own -apparently because they revised the algorithm. They realized that since the EA and NA markers are somewhat similar, these two tend to "team up" and strenghten each other, artificially crowding out African. Now, the expected African is showing up in my results. But the NA dropped out. This third DNAPrint 2.0 report of mine is based on the very same data as my second DNAPrint report. Only the algorithm was different. Here, I'm assuming that the EA really means NA and that my NA ancestors descended from immigrants from prehistoric Asia who might have come over a few thousand years later than the earlier immigrants from prehistoric Asia. So, perhaps my NA ancestors back in 1500 the had less genetic distance between themselves and people in eastern Asia in 1500, than, say, people who lived in the Yucatan or Amazon back then.
Email address (To use delete '-Wednesday-' and add @ sign in that position): cacst9-Wednesday-earthlink.net

Guest: Cecelia Clancy
Guest's Website: http://home.earthlink.net/~cacst9/DNAPrint/
Date-Time: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 at 00:31:49 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 88, 0, 6, 6
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 92, 6, 2, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: December 2002
Comments: My website will later be changed to something like http://home.earthlink.net/~cacst9/Genealogy/ with the DNAPrint part being some subpage within it. Today I'm reporting my second DNAPrint results. My first DNAPrint results were reported here May 20, 2003. Since that test had five failures (out of 68 markers tested), I asked DNAPrint to run the test over again with a new sample. This time, they tested 70 markers and there were zero failures. The results were different - but it is hard to pinpoint the reason, since there were significant differences in the data, plus it is proprietary whether or not DNAPrint had tweaked the algorithm between my first and second tests. I'd been "officially" told as a child on that I was 3/4 Irish and 1/4 German. But due to family rumors, whispers, contradictory and internally inconsistant info, my supposedly all-Irish maternal grandfather's physical traits, etc, I seriouly wondered if he was triracial - Irish, eastern woodlands Native American, and sub-Saharan African, and perhaps some English or French ("Massa's" heritage). The non-Irish parts of his ancestry, if indeed present, go back to Tidewater and northern Virginia, and it is very possible that the non-Native ones were in the Tidewater as early as the 1600's. I also got my mother tested on DNA 2.0, results to be posted later. I also have a new analysis of this test's data (using a revised algorithm), also to be posted later. I have seven younger siblings - all of the same father and mother, and hope to test as many of them as I can afford and who are willing. That way, we can determine/estimate many of our deceased father's DNAPrint markers. Some can be determined precisely. Say, if I am AA for a given marker and so is Mom, yet some of my sibs test GA, then we know for certain that Dad was GA too. If all my sibs test AA, then we can say it is probable, but not certain that he was AA. And so on. At some point in the future, I'll also post sibs' results. And if I can get DNAPrint to agree to run Dad's determined/estimated results through their algorithm, I'll later post that too. It would be interesting to see if there are any EA/NA signals coming from him - he came straight from Ireland and his ancestors had inhabited the same small island off the coast of western County Galway for six generations. See, Mom's DNAPrint 2.0 results came back as 100% European, yet, her father almost certainly had some non-European in him.
Email address (To use delete '-Wednesday-' and add @ sign in that position): cacst9-Wednesday-earthlink.net

Guest: Joe B. Cox
Date-Time: Saturday, March 13, 2004 at 18:04:00 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 92,0,8,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 21 Oct 2003
Comments: Y-DNA Haplogroup - R1B. The 8% NA was unexpected.
Email address (To use delete '-Saturday-' and add @ sign in that position): hudgo-Saturday-medt.com

Guest: John T Nichols
Date-Time: Saturday, March 13, 2004 at 14:29:56 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 91,0,5,4
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 6 February 2004
Comments: Previous 2.0 results, May2003, were IE=95, EA=15, NA=0, SSAF=0. The 2.5 results are a rather radical difference especially with the EA component going from 15% to 0%. Either the 2.0 or the 2.5 results are wrong. Maybe both are! There is NO genealogical support for any Native American ancestry and I know both sides of my family to the 17th century. Statistically, one could observe that the confidence intervals strongly suggest that the real answer here is IE=100% and all the rest zero. But the differences in the results between 2.0 and 2.5 raise questions about what this test is really measuring. In my opinion, it's not measuring much.
Email address (To use delete '-Saturday-' and add @ sign in that position): jtnichols-Saturday-earthlink.net

Guest: Robert Tarín
Date-Time: Saturday, March 13, 2004 at 10:35:25 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 94, 0, 6, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 77, 14, 9, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 1 August 2003
Comments: Was suprised by EA results at first but since then I understand better having researched the issue. My thoughts are that the EA is probably NA. My paternal ancestors have been in Mexico for 300+ years and it is difficult to imagine they would have stayed purely "Spanish" to the present. My grandfather did appear to have a good portion of NA appearance. My Y-DNA37 results are still pending. I do wonder about the EA being from my maternal side which was 100% German from Prussia. MtDNA Haplogroup is "I".
Email address (To use delete '-Saturday-' and add @ sign in that position): rtarin-Saturday-satx.rr.com

Guest: David M.
Date-Time: Sunday, March 07, 2004 at 09:15:31 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 85,0,15,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 75,0,17,8
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 19 Feb 2004
Comments: The NA result (17%) is about what I expected, as both sides of my family had interactions with Cherokee in generations past. The SSAF result (8%) was a surprise but not completely unexpected, as there were relationships between the Cherokee and Blacks in Georgia where one of my g-g-g grandmothers of Cherokee blood was born. As there is also exists a rumor of NA on my mother's side, it is possible some of it came from her line, too. I have now ordered DNAPrint 2.5 to have both my father and my mother's living brother tested to better ascertain and resolve the population groups on each side. Both sides of my family lines have numerous origins out of the UK. The majority are Ulster Scots (Scots-Irish). I am expected the results of my mtDNA test soon, which will give me a better idea of my all female side. I have a well documented paper trail of that line back to its Ulster Scots origin in 1640.
Email address (To use delete '-Sunday-' and add @ sign in that position): dave-Sunday-merrell.net

Guest: Debby Reagan
Guest's Website: http://roseoftheknights.com/strongdna.html
Date-Time: Monday, February 23, 2004 at 17:13:48 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 90, 0, 10, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 87, 0, 1, 12
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 1 Nov 2003
Comments: With a last name such as Reagan, and my mother being a Wallace, I expected a very high IE result and got it. No surprise of the H haplogroup either. There is, on my mother's side, Native American as well. She was told by her mother that 2 of her grandparents, one on her Mom's and one on her Dad's side, were full Indian. So, I expected any where from 1/8 to 1/4 NA. I was very surprised to see SSAF results. But, I was adopted and never knew my biological family beyond my parents generation with one exception, my maternal grandmother. No one ever mentioned any African ancestors. (Note) There is one possible exception, a very dark skinned uncle my Mom had.... but never mentioned to me. But there is the fact that we had darker skin popping up in different degrees of dark and this was attributed to the Indian ancestry. So, I have started research into the possibility of "black Indian" due to that and a story of being related to a "Chief Joseph" by my g/aunt, the sister of the very dark skinned uncle. (Maybe the one of Mohawk fame?)
Email address (To use delete '-Monday-' and add @ sign in that position): debbyp-Monday-metrocast.net

Guest: Mary Minshall
Date-Time: Monday, February 23, 2004 at 16:53:55 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100, 0, 0, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 96, 0, 4, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 24 January 2004
Comments: DNAPrint 2.0, previously posted, showed 100 European. I was surprised to find the 4% Native American which apparently was in one of the markers not examined by 2.0. My paper genealogy is 100% European, but it is not complete.
Email address (To use delete '-Monday-' and add @ sign in that position): marys2cats-Monday-earthlink.net

Guest: Pam Nicely
Date-Time: Friday, February 13, 2004 at 11:43:52 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100, 0, 0, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 94, 6, 0, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 18 November 2003
Comments: Expected majority IE, suspected might get small NA result. mtDNA results from OA showed Haplogroup V
Email address (To use delete '-Friday-' and add @ sign in that position): plnicely-Friday-mac.com

Guest: Adelaide Nothe
Date-Time: Thursday, February 12, 2004 at 10:26:18 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 94,0,2,4
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: November 2003
Comments: Adelaide is actually my grandmother. I expected a majority IE for her but would not have been surprised by some EA or SSAF because one of her four grandparents was Romany (gypsy). Three of her four grandparents (including the one that was Romany) emigrated from Germany. The other grandparent is unknown so I suppose the 2% NA could have come from him but I find it doubtful.
Email address (To use delete '-Thursday-' and add @ sign in that position): kkaercher-Thursday-hotmail.com

Guest: Louise Wadlin
Guest's Website: http://www.wadlin.com
Date-Time: Monday, February 09, 2004 at 23:37:21 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100, 0, 0, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 92, 8, 0, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 21 January 2004
Comments: My family spoke of a Cherokee gg grandmother, Elizabeth Bird, but I had doubts. 8%EA was a surprise, though. Reading this forum has helped me understand that it may be a consequence of being 1/4th German. I am going for the version 2.5 to see if that provides any more information.
Email address (To use delete '-Monday-' and add @ sign in that position): louise-Monday-wadlin.com

Guest: Silas Begley
Date-Time: Monday, February 09, 2004 at 00:24:14 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 90, 0, 10, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 86, 4, 0, 10
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 29 Sept 2003
Comments: Y-DNA R1b, mtDNA U - An Appalachian meld of Irish, Scotch, English, Dutch, Palatine German, and Native American on both sides of family with most branches researched back to 1400s with no indications of SSAF linage unless going back to year one. I expected 90% IE and 10% NA, instead I recieved 86% IE, 4% EA, 0% NA, and 10% SSAF leaving me with something less than an absolute confidence level in the results. Maybe in the future!
Email address (To use delete '-Monday-' and add @ sign in that position): unoledohiai-Monday-yahoo.com

Guest: Gralnek
Date-Time: Sunday, February 08, 2004 at 14:12:00 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100, 0, 0, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 79, 21, 0, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: August 2003
Comments: I am adopted so only know my mother's side of the family. They are predominately Irish and Swedish. I was surprised with the 21% EA and figure perhaps that either came from my unknown father, who we believe to be German, or the Swedish side of my family. My mtDNA is K, my mother's father is R1A.
Email address (To use delete '-Sunday-' and add @ sign in that position): richbeast-Sunday-hotmail.com

Guest: TH
Date-Time: Saturday, February 07, 2004 at 23:44:41 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 75,25,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 97,0,0,3
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: October 2003
Comments: Interesting to read others comments about unexpected EA results, as I have the opposite problem. TH is from northern Europe with one Mongolian grandparent out of Russia, yet his EA is 0%, even though he has noticible EA features. The "Mongolian" mtDNA is H, so she wasn't "fullblood", but then who is. I guess the 3% SSAF is either a fluke, or some SSAF genes worked their way up through the middle east into Russia.
Email address (To use delete '-Saturday-' and add @ sign in that position): spilleddy-Saturday-earthlink.net

Guest: Gregory A. George
Date-Time: Saturday, February 07, 2004 at 07:15:23 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100, 0, 0, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 92,0,8,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 12 August 2003
Comments: My Y-DNA Haplogroup assignment is I.My Y-DNA result shows that I have an exact match on the 12 marker test only with one known distant cousin.I do not match any of the other participants on the George DNA Surname Project including a couple of participants who show a paper trail from a man that research shows should be my ancestor.In addition FTDNA has written to me that my distant cousin and I are the only participants on the George DNA surname site who have a Scandanavian ancestry prior to that ancestor settling in Great Britain.This has been a surprizing development.I have had the 25 marker test and am closer to two other surnames than my own,one being from Virginia and the other from North Carolina,both are states from which I have direct ancestors.
Email address (To use delete '-Saturday-' and add @ sign in that position): ggsar-Saturday-aol.com

Guest: Fran Goode Akridge
Date-Time: Friday, February 06, 2004 at 23:03:41 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 93,0,7,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 80,20,0,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 01 Jan 2004
Comments: mtDNA=U5a1a I have one self proclaimed Cherokee g-grandmother. Family legend has three or more ancestors that were Powhaten, and the families were in that area. So I suspected that I was somewhere between 1/8 and 1/16 NA. However, I also have German ancestors from the Palantine area who moved to Pennsylvania in the pre-Revolution 1700s, and it is my understanding the East Asian is appearing in the Pennsylvania "Dutch."
Email address (To use delete '-Friday-' and add @ sign in that position): franakridge-Friday-mindspring.com

Guest: James Armistead Brown, Jr.
Date-Time: Friday, February 06, 2004 at 09:38:05 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 98, 1, 1, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100, 0, 0, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: Nov. 2003
Comments: Y haplogroup = I1b, mtdna haplogroup = U5b1 Would not have been surprised if small EA and/or NA percentages had been found, due to persistent legends of NA ancestry in both maternal and paternal lines, not to mention mt U5b1 haplotype. But all in all, reported results are completely consistent with PROVEN genealogy.
Email address (To use delete '-Friday-' and add @ sign in that position): DNAforBrowns-Friday-aol.com

Guest: Lois Frantz-Rieck
Date-Time: Friday, February 06, 2004 at 09:07:07 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 90,0,10,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: November 2003
Comments: I was very surprised about the 10% Native American for all my ancestors came from France, Germany and/or England. My mtDNA haplogroup has not been assign because there are no matches with my test results. (FTDNA subsequently assigned the mtDNA results to Haplogroup V, which is European.)
Email address (To use delete '-Friday-' and add @ sign in that position): chairwomanl-Friday-enter.net

Guest: Paul Johnson
Date-Time: Thursday, February 05, 2004 at 16:45:00 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 96,0,2,2
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 8 December 2003
Comments: I have 2 gggg grandparents who were classified mulatto in colonial records but white in the 1790 census, and two other probable but unproven lines in the same category. Local (eastern NC) tradition says these people were mixed Native American/European, but Paul Heinegg's research led me to think they were Free African Americans. Even though my 100% IE result is disappointing, the likelihood of NA or EA ancestry is given as 4 times higher than SSAF, so I am assuming those mulattoes were more likely NA than SSAF, just as local tradition maintains.
Email address (To use delete '-Thursday-' and add @ sign in that position): kpauljohnson-Thursday-yahoo.com

Guest: Douglas Wright
Date-Time: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 at 21:18:37 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 92,0,8,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: August 2003
Comments: My certificate was issued 30 October 2003. I was told my gr-gr-grandmaother was quarter or half native American.
Email address (To use delete '-Tuesday-' and add @ sign in that position): dmwgen-Tuesday-aol.com

Guest: Steven Williamson
Date-Time: Monday, February 02, 2004 at 21:49:14 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 98,0,0,2
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 81,0,19,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: May 2003
Comments: I did the DNA Print test twice, because I was stunned by the high percentage of NA ancestry. My first set of results were 80, 4, 16, 0, the 2nd was 84, 1, 15, 0, each time with failures, though in different locations. Ancestry by DNA combined the two genotype files (via e-mail) into 81, 0, 19, 0. While my family has some "Indian Princess" stories in a few lines, I never would have suspected such a high percentage of Native American ancestry. I have found no records of any identifiably Indian ancestors, and my genealogy is rather complete back to about 1750 in all lines. However, I have found evidence of one "mulatto" female ancestor seven generations back, who was probably African-American, but could conceivably have had some Native American ancestry as well. After reading of the dramatic decrease in Charles Kerchner's EA percentage, though, and examining Ancestry by DNA's updated web site, I am very curious to see what results I will receive with the version 2.5 test.
Email address (To use delete '-Monday-' and add @ sign in that position): w_s_arthur-Monday-yahoo.com

Guest: Charles Kerchner, 577 (PA Deutsch (aka PA Dutch) Project)
Guest's Website: http://www.kerchner.com/pa-gerdna.htm
Date-Time: Monday, Feb 02, 2004 at 08:57:20 (CDT)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100, 0, 0, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 93/79/79, 7/21/21, 0/0/0, 0/0/0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: Version 2.5 Test-Sep 2003/Version 2.0 2nd Test-Mar 2003/Version 2.0 1st Test-Feb 2003
Comments: My DNAPrint BGA results for the new 2.5 version dropped dramatically from 79% European, 21% Asian for the DNAPrint Version 2.0 to 93% European, 7% Asian for the DNAPrint Version 2.5. My initial results with the 2.0 test were very surprising to me. Now I am surprised again with the dramatic change in the results with the new version 2.5 test results. I have over 27 years of extensive genealogical research and documentation. I also had prior Y-DNA and mtDNA tests. All indicated 100% European ancestry. There is no potential recent source for the Asian content or even a rumor of a possible source in my 8 generation Pedigree Chart. My genealogy is PA Deutsch for the last 250+ years. See my initial posting to this log dated May 5, 2003. The source of the Asian content must be ancient. As a result of my surprise results last year I started the PA Deutsch Ethnic Group DNA Project to look into this further.
Email address: Contact

Guest: Thomas Whitfield Athey
Guest's Website: http://home.comcast.net/~whitathey/index.htm
Date-Time: Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 19:29:57 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 92,1,7,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 29 October 2003
Comments: I expected to find essentially 100% IE, but with the possibility of a trace (2% or less NA). I know 31 of 32 of my 3g-gp, and for the one missing ancestor, there has never been any hint that she might be NA. Therefore, it would appear that the latest NA ancestor I could have had was probably among my 4g-gp. One NA ancestor at this level would mean 1.5% NA. The confidence intervals for my results include the point for 100% IE, so I am reading it as being consistent with my belief that I was essentially 100% IE. Of course, it is also consistent with a small admixture of NA.
Email address (To use delete '-Sunday-' and add @ sign in that position): wathey-Sunday-hprg.com

Guest: 13687 (PA Deutsch Project)
Guest's Website: http://www.kerchner.com/pa-gerdna.htm
Date-Time: Saturday, January 24, 2004 at 15:40:07 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 88,12,0,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: September 2003
Comments: 12% Asian content results was a surprise based on this person's prior traditional genealogical research and family oral history. mtDNA haplogroup is H which is European.
Email address (To use delete '-Saturday-' and add @ sign in that position): Contact

Guest: 13099 (PA Deutsch Project)
Guest's Website: http://www.kerchner.com/pa-gerdna.htm
Date-Time: Saturday, January 24, 2004 at 15:38:27 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 95,5,0,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: September 2003
Comments: 5% Asian content results was a surprise based on this person's prior traditional genealogical research and family oral history. mtDNA haplogroup is K which is European.
Email address (To use delete '-Saturday-' and add @ sign in that position): Contact

Guest: 11781 (PA Deutsch Project)
Guest's Website: http://www.kerchner.com/pa-gerdna.htm
Date-Time: Saturday, January 24, 2004 at 15:35:06 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: July 2003
Comments: 100% European results were as expected based on this person's prior traditional genealogical research and family oral history. Y-DNA haplogroup is R1b which is European.
Email address (To use delete '-Saturday-' and add @ sign in that position): Contact

Guest: 11231 (PA Deutsch Project)
Guest's Website: http://www.kerchner.com/pa-gerdna.htm
Date-Time: Saturday, January 24, 2004 at 15:30:25 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 95,5,0,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: July 2003
Comments: 5% Asian content was a surprise based on this person's prior traditional genealogical research and family oral history. Y-DNA haplogroup is R1b which is European.
Email address (To use delete '-Saturday-' and add @ sign in that position): Contact

Guest: 11169 (PA Deutsch Project)
Guest's Website: http://www.kerchner.com/pa-gerdna.htm
Date-Time: Saturday, January 24, 2004 at 15:25:25 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: August 2003
Comments: 100% European results were as expected from this person's prior traditional genealogical research and family oral history. mtDNA haplogroup is H which is European.
Email address (To use delete '-Saturday-' and add @ sign in that position): Contact

Guest: Beth E.
Guest's Website: www.davidkfaux.org
Date-Time: Monday, January 12, 2004 at 14:53:02 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 94, 0, 6, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 91, 4, 5, 0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 2003
Comments: These results are a little high based on a solid paper trail genelogy. Beth is one of my kin. Being of the same generation as my uncle, she should have approximately the same percentages. If we assume that EA = NA, then this is a pretty good match. She is a descendant of a different son of the Native American woman. I am presently testing a kinsman who is two generations closer to the Native American ancestor. He will be tested with Version 2.5, so am not sure that the results are directly comparable to what is found with 2.0 - and if he ends up with any African, then it is a false positive. Will post his results when they are available.
Email address (To use delete '-Monday-' and add @ sign in that position): fauxdk-Monday-yahoo.com

Guest: P. Greber
Date-Time: Monday, January 12, 2004 at 14:38:02 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100, 0, 0, 0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 89, 0, 0, 11
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.5
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: Aug. 2003
Comments: There has been only Irish, Scottish and English ancestry and am unsure where the African comes from. mtDNA haplogroup is H and quite a common one as I have a lot of matches on HVR1 and about 14 matches on HVR2. I have traced my ancestry on both my paternal and maternal sides to about 1800.
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Guest: Jim Bass
Date-Time: Saturday, January 10, 2004 at 10:43:07 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 90,0,5,5
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 88,0,11,1
DNAPrint Test Version Number:
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: Dec 2003
Comments: I was surprised by the higher NA. I am going to have parents tested with the DNAPrint. This way I can better focus my research. I am going to target my 3 or 4 great-great-grandparents with unknown parentage. Perhaps the difficulty in researching them is due to the fact that they were 1/2 or 1/4 Indian. The SSAF result, I thought could be higher, since my Y Haplogroup is Unknown and the 2 step pointed to Gambia, West Africa. We do know for a fact that my one of my maternal gr-gr-gr-gr-gramdmother was either African, Native American or both. She sold to pay for the murder trial of Redding Blount, 1813, NOrth Florida.
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Guest: HY Unger
Date-Time: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 at 07:42:45 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 90, 0, 2, 8
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 9 Oct 2003
Comments: These test results were for my father. There were family rumors of NA in his line (a ggrandmother), but my past genealogy research disproved them. My research has proved that most of my family was of German origin with a smattering of Engligh/Scottish.
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Guest: Child 3 of RFC and RC
Date-Time: Monday, January 05, 2004 at 22:39:11 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 90,0,10,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 81,0,3,16
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: September 2003
Comments: Same mistake with SSAF as children numbers 1 & 2 unless, however, there is a mistake in the DNAPrint test results of one or both parents (who tested zero percent SSAF).
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Guest: Child 2 of RFC and RC
Date-Time: Monday, January 05, 2004 at 22:35:45 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 90,0,10,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 85,0,9,6
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: October 2003
Comments: Same mistake as child 1 concerning SSAF. Both parents have zero SSAF.
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Guest: Child 1 of RFC and RC
Date-Time: Monday, January 05, 2004 at 22:33:06 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 75,0,25,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 65,0,19,16
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: October 2003
Comments: SSAF results must be a mistake. Parents both have zero SSAF. There is utterly no doubt as to the biological parents of child 1. Child 1 has physical appearance more like mom than children 2 and 3 which is why I had higher NA expectations for child 1.
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Guest: Mother of RC, Mother-in-law of RFC
Date-Time: Monday, January 05, 2004 at 22:29:56 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 50,0,50,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 39,19,42,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: April 2003
Comments: Was told by DNAPrint that the EA component was from a more recent migration to North America than NA.
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Guest: RC, wife of RFC
Date-Time: Monday, January 05, 2004 at 22:24:45 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 70,0,30,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 65,0,35,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: October 2002
Comments: No coments
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Guest: RFC
Date-Time: Monday, January 05, 2004 at 22:21:19 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 100,0,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 99,1,0,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: October 2002
Comments: Not sure if the 1% EA is significant.
Email address (To use delete '-Monday-' and add @ sign in that position): rcommage-Monday-ix.netcom.com

Guest: Dean Moulopoulos
Date-Time: Saturday, January 03, 2004 at 17:48:01 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 85, 11,0,4
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 98,2,0,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 12/01/03
Comments: I am of Greek descent. In light of the Greece's recent long occupation by Ottoman Turks, I thought I would have more EA than I have, since the Turks are in part central Asians. I also thought I might have some Sub-Saharan African genes due to Turkish invasions--bringing moslems from Egypt into Greece. My unconfirmed Y DNA haplogroup is I1b. I don't have much info on my family history because they were poor Greek villagers. I look forward to taking the AncestryByDNA 3.0 test, to look for specific sub-racial genetic estimates.
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Guest: James V. Elliott
Date-Time: Friday, January 02, 2004 at 11:30:50 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 95,5,0,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 89,11,0,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: 21 September 2003
Comments: I am one-eighth Penn-Dutch on my maternal great-grandmother's side, which is more or less confirmed by an mtDNA haplogroup of T2 with a high proportion of matches among German, Czech and Polish population groups. I assume part of the East Asian on that side came from Hun and Mongol invasions of Central Europe. 11 percent is nearly one-eighth by itself, however, so the East Asian must have other sources. My father's people hail from Cumbria and Western Scotland, and both the genealogical evidence and the Y-DNA matches suggest considerable Norwegian input. My Y haplogroup is supposedly R1b, but a rare haplotype, with an easterly orientation and occasional matches to R1. The closest matches in the FTDNA Haplogroup DB are two step mutations to Hungary (1), Iceland (1) and Native Siberian (5). 35% of all the matches are in Asia or Eastern Europe, while 25% are in Scandinavia, Iceland and the Shetland Isles. Overall, the geographical profile of the matches looks more R1a than R1b, suggesting an R1b subgroup that got absorbed into a Kurgan population a few thousand years ago. My branch of the Elliott border clan, often rumored to have been Vikings, originated in Cumbria under the name "Elewald", which is phonetically almost identical to, and may share the same the derivation as, the Norwegian surname "Ellevold". The high proportion of matches not only to Siberians, but also to Uyghurs, Uzbeks, Mongolians and other Asians made me think that, if there was some of what I have in them, there's probably some of what they have in me (e.g., East Asian genes). The DNA Print only confirms this. The East Asian component probably entered my father's ancestry either through Lapp admixture, or through earlier mixing on the Central Asian steppes - or both. One final possibility, confirmed by neither genealogical documentation nor family anecdote, is that some of the East Asian is actually Mohawk or Iroquois blood, as my maternal grandmother's people settled in upstate New York when it was still Indian country, and many people of known Indian descent do share my family names on that side (i.e, "Whipple" and "Hance"). However, I emphasize that this is pure speculation, and I am otherwise entirely delighted and fascinated with the results of the test. My only physical traces of that Hunnish-Siberian 11 percent are high cheekbones, Ainu hirsuteness and the ability to sleep in the dead of a New England winter with only a bedsheet to keep me warm.
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Guest: Dean McGee
Guest's Website: http://www.mymcgee.com
Date-Time: Thursday, January 01, 2004 at 22:07:13 (CST)
My Expected Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 94,0,6,0
My Actual DNAPrint Results for IE,EA,NA,SSAF Population Groups: 94,0,6,0
DNAPrint Test Version Number: 2.0
Date DNAPrint Test Was Ordered: Oct 2003
Comments: Y-DNA: R1b; mtDNA: H Family lore indicated a Cherokee contribution but no documentation as yet -- the expected results were 3-9% NA. The actual test results were right on target
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